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Comment on Covenant Friends by i would like to remain anonymous

i would like to remain anonymous — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:14:55 +0000

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Comment on Arguments that Commit Suicide by sandrar

sandrar — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:29:52 +0000

Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post… nice! I love your blog. Cheers! Sandra. R.

Comment on Delayed Response to the AWARE Incident by rk

rk — Fri, 29 May 2009 01:54:30 +0000

thanks for dropping by shf.

hmm…actually i have no idea what made me think you’re a girl. maybe it’s the way you present your thoughts and observations? or maybe it’s the name, stillhaventfound. it kind of have a feminine feel about it.

great to hear you’re a regular there now. i do not attend a cell group although i do serve in Holy Comms.

Comment on Delayed Response to the AWARE Incident by stillhaventfound

stillhaventfound — Thu, 28 May 2009 15:55:02 +0000

Another person who thinks stillhaventfound is a gir! Why, may I ask? It’s OK – You are with the majority of people!

Anyway, thanks for your kind words and your links to my posts. NCC is pretty much my home church – I’ve been going regularly and I do tithe there. Do you attend a cell there?

Cheers!

Comment on With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility by The One-North Controversy « tilted halos

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Comment on Sowing in Times of Famine by Russell Earl Kelly

Russell Earl Kelly — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:16:03 +0000

2 Cor 8:11-15

11 Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have.

12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.

13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:

14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:

15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.
KJV

Comment on Sowing in Times of Famine by rk

rk — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:11:33 +0000

i don’t see why we need to choose between tithing/giving and providing for our family. this presupposes that God has to rob us to bless others, that he is unable to provide us with enough to be a blessing to his kingdom. in my earlier comment, i wrote that i will not hesitate to adjust the amount of my giving if i should find myself in a position where i am unable to provide adequately for my family. if such a scenario does arise and i know that i have already done all i could to simplify my lifestyle (not living in poverty) and was responsible with my money, then perhaps, yes, this might justify a reduction in giving because i am aware of my responsibility to my family. but most often than not, all it takes (especially for people in affluent countries) is giving up some “nice to haves” but “can live without” plus some serious education.

Comment on Sowing in Times of Famine by Russell Earl Kelly

Russell Earl Kelly — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:37:45 +0000

The truth about tithes is very easy to discover if one makes an effort. Although money was common even in Genesis and essential to sanctuary worship, money was noticeably absent in 16 texts which describe the contents of the tithe over 1500 years from Leviticus to Luke.

Remarkably, Jesus, Peter and Paul did not qualify as tithe-payers because their job did not produce food inside Israel. In the Bible legitimate tithes could only come from inside Israel and were rejected from tradesmen and Gentiles.

Nothing Abram did in Genesis 14 is an example for Christians to tithe (1) only pagan spoils of war, (2) only once recorded, (3) not from his own property, (4) he gave the 90% to the king of Sodom and (5) he was probably obeying pagan Arab tradition.

While it is true that all we have belongs to God, that is never used as a reason to tithe 10% of food increase.

It is a great privilege and we give out of a heart of worship, not compulsion. NT giving principles are motivated by love, not law, and should exceed any OT requirement —but tithing was only an OT requirement for farmers inside Israel.

Since tithes and firstfruits are never the same tin the Bible, it is wrong to tell people that tithes of income should be given first. According to 1 Timothy 5:8 our first responsibility is to our family. Medicine , food and essential shelter must come before freewill giving.

Comment on Sowing in Times of Famine by rk

rk — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:16:38 +0000

i have been thinking about what i wrote in my earlier comment. i feel the need to retract some statements. i find them a little misleading. what i meant to say was that although I do not hold to the belief that giving tithes is mandatory (ie. a direct command from God) for new covenant believers, i do believe that it has great value and significance even for us today. it makes great sense to me that since all we have belong to God, giving back a tenth to show our recognition of our dependence on Him is not only right but it should be the posture we seek to adopt. today we give because it’s a great privilege and we give out of a heart of worship, not compulsion. but i do agree we shouldn’t call it a tithe if our giving is anything below a tenth of our income. i know there is much more to it than just an issue of numbers; the old testament tithe was for a specific people, for a specific purpose, in a specific period. to me, it is the spirit and the principle we draw from that is more important. i do however, believe that there is great significance in a tenth. why didn’t God ask for a fifth or an eighth, why a tenth? i don’t have any scripture to support that. i figure since that was where God started with his first covenant people, why not start with that?

Comment on Sowing in Times of Famine by Russell Earl Kelly

Russell Earl Kelly — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:09:56 +0000

The sow and reap principle is “giving” not “tithing.” When you finish Alcorn’s book take a look at mine. It began as my PHD dissertation. There are many theologians who agree with me such as Martin Luther and John MacArthur. I am definitely not against supporting the work of God’s church. I am merely against calling such suppoort “tithing.”

Although money was common in Genesis and essential for sanctuary worship, money was never included in tithing texts covering Leviticus to Luke.